Share Munoz - Bull Rider- videographer - horse trainer - Entrepreneur, business owner

Mark Laurie:   0:02
you're listening to fascinating women with Mark Laurie and now Mark Laurie. Hello. Welcome to fascinating women today. I've got Share  joining me. Share is been around the block in many ways. You might say. she's got more depth actual than a lot of people do. And it's a very diverse people have had on so far. So share start about your childhood environment, I guess, would be called that big, massive place.

Share Munoz:   0:34
Absolutely. I, uh formative years. So till though it was not quite six years old, lived on the Circle S Cattle company, my dad was the foreman of the ranch, and we were the only white family on the ranch, interestingly enough, and the rest were from the Chilcotin Tribe group. And so I probably spoke as much cho cotten as I did English at a very young age, and, uh, my playground was 30,000 square acres, which would be about 50 square miles. And on that we had moose, elk and deer and we had Cougars, and I'm sure there were wolves in there somewhere, as well as there were Herford cattle that were being raised on the ranch have very fond memories there. Uh, my best buddy at that time was a perfect bull called Curly. And as the story goes, my father came in from out in the paddock and was walking in the barn, and we had three bulls that we looked after in the winter because had problems with their feet, so we needed to doctor them every morning so the Bulls would come in after the Cowboys left, go into the stall, see if any grain had been left and try and scoop it up. So my dad walked in just as I was climbing up the stalled beside Curly and climbing onto his back, and my dad stopped dead because he knew at that point there was nothing he could do. He just waited and Curly bless his heart, did nothing, just backed out of the stall, went out into the corral where the hay was and munched away. And then when he thought I had been on him long enough, apparently he went over to the fence and I climbed off, and that became our daily routine while he was there being looked after, and we were best buddies from that point. So little, little different backgrounds than many, I'm sure

Mark Laurie:   2:22
with that going forward, that giving any sense of environmental activism or environmental viewpoint cause that's that's deep earth stuff.

Share Munoz:   2:33
Absolutely. One of the stories that I remember is there was a cougar that had been injured and we don't know how and rather than going out to destroy him. What my dad and the cowboys would do is they go out, make sure there was feed there for him. We won't say what it was there was meat. We'll just say involved meat and just feed him so that he didn't, uh, then try and attack our dogs or us because we were just little kids and he healed up and moved on. So lots of things like that. We also had a muskrat that lived on by our creek, which ran by the barn, and that we would go slide on and so we got to see nature up close and personal and be part of it rather than apart from it. And just to this day, have a huge, huge respect for it. And I'm really sorry with some of the species that are disappearing just through lack of understanding on how their habitat is necessary and to find ways to live with, um, rather than destroying them and taking over what was their habitat.

Mark Laurie:   3:43
Yeah, it's a short viewpoint that settles in. It's really hard, but you've taken that and you've gone on As you started building your life. You think it's meant to be earlier. You didn't have a normal childhood root of education?

Share Munoz:   3:57
No, in fact, growing up when I look back now, I'm really grateful to our parents out. There's just my brother and I and our family. And growing up, it was whoever had the free hands. Those for the hands that got used. We were never told. I was never told that I can't do something because that's something that only a boy or a man should do. And rigorously, my brother was never told. That's not something you do. Only the women do that. It was very much all hands on deck, so sometimes my job was to feed the orphan calves cause unfortunately, in that climate, winters could be bitter even in calving out season. So we get some more from Jimmy, bring them in and bring them into the house and keep them by the fire to keep warm and we would feed them and i was awesome. I loved it, one of my fondest memories to this day,

Mark Laurie:   4:48
but that sounds like a childhood that people have like back in the 1800s.

Share Munoz:   4:51
Yes, this is in the 1950's,

Mark Laurie:   4:56
that's while what kind of values did you look back in yourself and say, " Ok, those have become pillars from that that you carry forward today.

Share Munoz:   5:05
So absolutely a lot of it was when we were a little bit older. We had moved to the coast had an acreage. We had a barn and looked after other people's horses as well. And so what came from that ranch upbringing is that when we came home from school, we had a quick snack, and then it was out to the barn because those animals could not look after themselves. So there were stalls to be clean feed to be put out and then have them brought in, clean up the barn after us. So what we learned is about responsibility and accountability, that it's not always us first that often times there are others that need our help before we look after ourselves.

Mark Laurie:   5:45
That's powerful. What other kind of lessons did you learn from a childhood that still serve you

Share Munoz:   5:52
Oh, certainly independence. I honestly think by the time we were 15 if my brother and I have had to live on her own, we would have managed because of those chores that we had to call them that that just taught us that responsibility and accountability that to look beyond ourselves always. It isn't just about us and but also to take pride in what we're doing in a job well done. And we didn't do that and absolutely learned that from our parents and again just that gratitude for those principles and values that they instilled in. It's tough it's led us to today, and and I remember one of the things they took away from my childhood that I heard all the time was where there's a will, there's a way, and I can tell you in circumstances that I've met as I've grown to the age that I am now, that philosophy has really stood the test of time and in my darkest moments and we've all had some. I just remember my parents saying where there's a will, there's a way

Mark Laurie:   6:58
you always find a route around things to make them That alwasy helps, that stepping out of the box because most people looking for straight lines solutions and that phrase forces you to look at alternatives That really obvious.

Share Munoz:   7:11
Absolutely. When I was 10 I started showing horses,  our own. And then when I was 16 I turned pro. So I trained and showed other people's horses, whether I led them to show ring or whether they were just pleasure horses for the family. Again, every horse has its own personality, so you don't train every horse the same. So you learn to become very innovative to be their personality and determine what is going to get you to the end that you want with them in a way that they get. And I and I have to tell you, Mark, one of the one of the biggest joys in training those horses is if I was teaching them a particular thing is the moment that they got it, because what they would do is is they would their neck would sorta  have come up and they would  just swell, and it's kinda like saying, Hey, I got it. Anything you can feel that moment when they get it, and it's it's just amazing.

Mark Laurie:   8:11
So that was a business, after 10 years old, you got your business practice because he's so like, Oh, go babysit the neighborhood kids. This is like a real business, right?

Share Munoz:   8:22
Well, at that time was just on the weekends. That's where we spent our time is at horse shows both my brother and I, And when I was 16 I became a professional at that

Mark Laurie:   8:33
but you are still making money. I assume someone's charging. 

Share Munoz:   8:35
Look at the time I was 16. Absolutely. You know, you built the business up and I freelanced. I didn't have a stable that I trained out of, so we run up the coast at that time. So there was many a rainy day that I was out schooling those horses on a new field or pasture taken in the trails through the trees and that were around us. So you never know where you're going to see me on any given day.

Mark Laurie:   8:57
Yeah, that's that's I can see those threads in your life today. As you, as you started talking about, I can see how you still function. Thought that coming through when you were not, ain't What kind of dreams did you have? What was your big dream at 16

Share Munoz:   9:14
I think 16 when I turned pro, but I really wanted to do because it worked, that many women that were looked up to in in that area. It was very much a man's world of man's field, and I was very determined. I was going to be the best I could be, and I wanted to be in the top floor by the time I was 18. By the time I was 19 I was in the top three, and a lot of times I was beating those men that had said to me, You shouldn't be doing this. This is not for women And and I was not the only woman that had been told that. So it was a point of pride that I couldn't go in there and beat them and go, Hah, take that.

Mark Laurie:   9:51
When you were doing that, were you just like doing it or to feel like you're breaking the glass ceiling?

Share Munoz:   9:59
You know what? I just felt like I was doing it. I didn't have an awareness of the glass ceiling. Just my own experience of how I was treated and looked at. Not all of them. There were men that were very supportive as well, but there are enough of them that made it very difficult and that you were certainly as a woman looked down upon. So the glass ceiling No, I didn't recognize at the time. That's part of what was going on. But afterwards I went, Oh, yes, definitely

Mark Laurie:   10:31
I agree, there is a story . My mom was a hot air balloon pilot, and they're racing one time, and they were told that you women can't fly that well and they couldn't win and you shouldn't even start. But you put together the all female team, and she won by a lot in for her. Pockets were kind, and she didn't make it easy for which is her kudos because they had a tough choice. I've been telling people that there's, you know, a man's always better than a than a female pilot, and yet she won, and so they had to either acknowledge he was a better pilot or explain why they were so bad taking second place. It was a lot of egos had a struggle with that. It's interesting for that's really well. So did you finish school?

Share Munoz:   11:17
I did not, um, much to my parents should bring and more importantly to my brothers agree. I quit when I was 16. It's It's not that I didn't do well in school. I did. But I was frustrated by school, really frustrated, and there were times I go to teachers for help. And rather than giving me the help, I was looking for you. I'd be told going talk to this student cause they excel in Italy can walk it through it now. That being said, there were a couple of teachers that stood up and I was fortunate enough to be with them, and I had one because I struggled with math. I had one teacher that she would meet me before school over lunch after school, and that's the only time that I got AIDS in Mac. And it's thanks to her. She was just amazing.

Mark Laurie:   12:05
Yeah, I've a teacher one time and he was great. 12 English teacher so clear he sets up a carpenter's desk, he says, By now you guys are all you need to know. So my job is to help you bring this out. I remember thinking, Oh, that's not good. You're not. Could teach us you're doing something else. That's not good. That's my work. Yes, E. I was right. It was a lot of work. So you I

Share Munoz:   12:27
was gonna say ng. And just to add that quitting at 16 it wasn't that I quit at 16 so I could go hang out on the beach or go up to the mountains and go skiing. It was okay, I'm quitting school. So I better have a plan. And that's when I turn pro with the horses and started giving people bring in reverse is to me. And so I worked very hard at that. I, um So during those teen years in my early twenties, even I wasn't a party and and socializing on the weekends, I was on the road. I was at four shows all over BC, and some down into Washington, Oregon, California a handful of times into Alberta. So I was out there working my butt off. I wasn't playing around by any means.

Mark Laurie:   13:13
So back in those days, who inspired you? Who is your role model or your hero? The person that you outside the family's. You looked out and go. Okay, so here's a person that I like the path they've made. I like their values. Who was that for you?

Share Munoz:   13:28
Mmm. The one person that comes to mind There are a couple of. Fortunately, the 1st 1 would be a woman by the name of Freed against yourself owned a farm and she broken trained horses. And I belong to a club at that time from the time is about 10 called the Lower Fraser Valley Junior verse Mint and Frito ran it and she taught us about reverses the anatomy of parts of the saddle bridles everything that you needed to know. And she saw a raw talent in me. And when I was 16 I went and worked with her for the summer while I was on school break. And that was just before I just I did not go to school on and just really brought that talent out, just really encouraged and supported me. She was just amazing. Just a phenomenal woman well ahead of her time in the fountain and then, when I was in my early twenties, was fortunate enough to go on and stay in California for not quite a year and work with the trainer down there that I had heard of. And again another brilliant woman breaking that pattern as well, cause again she was ahead of her time will. Certainly. So I was very fortunate to come in contact with a couple of women that were just really outstanding and just really inspiring me. Absolutely.

Mark Laurie:   14:50
So do you seek them? I would already sort of stumble upon them. Um,

Share Munoz:   14:54
with Frieda, Huh? Because I had had that experience with her with the Laura Fraser Valley Jinya horsemen. Uh, she sought me out because she saw what I was doing and said, You know, you could take that talent further, have you thought of and that's part of her. I got the idea to turn pro, uh, with blender. Lewis. Um, I saw her out. I had been to a clinic, put on by her former husband and found out about her from some other people. Approached her and she said, Yeah, come on down. And I went down and I trained with her for about 10 months, and that was just brilliant. It was fabulous.

Mark Laurie:   15:34
How did you start doing your business skills because you have to make a living doing this for 60 years old, and I'm assuming you've got bills to pay. So how did you learn the business side of it?

Share Munoz:   15:43
Well, you know what? I think I was quite challenged in that I determined what I thought would be a fair price s o for horse shows. Right? Different. So, depending on the number of classes you can have, whatever the regular classes, and then you can have what they call steak classes. So right, charge a little bit more for those ones because you're moving up and you're going for a show champion, or you're going for Register of Merit for horse, depending what it is and what class and what breed. And so I just started doing that because my parents, you know, bless their hearts were really strong business people. Oh, I kind of learned it well, by the seat of my pants. I mean, I'm gonna be blunt. That's pretty much how I learned it.

Mark Laurie:   16:29
I can sew, really, But it sounds like you already start to master the art of upscaling clients.

Share Munoz:   16:35
Yes. Yes, I was I was very fortunate. I am. I had some horses, that boy, they were talented. Now some of them might not have been the prettiest for what we call halter classes, and that's where they're judged on their confirmation. So if it's a mayor and you're another person's got a stone, you look cool. That mayor would be a great match for my stallion. Are their owner of the mayor? Might say. That's telling a great match for my mirror and let's breathe them. But then you've got classes that we call understand it. So whether English or Western, they could be pleasure classes. They could be raining classes, trail classes, variety of classes and there, Ah, horses. Confirmation is not a ski. What's important. There is their responsiveness, how well they perform the task, what you're asking of them and just how well they respond. And how are they in the arena with other horses? Do the behavior? Do they misty Once that happens to

Mark Laurie:   17:36
So you moved on on from there, so you had a point where you were unable to do it is just you shift gears from that world to what did you move into next?

Share Munoz:   17:45
Oh, my goodness. I did many things. So before going toe all just state that I was very fortunate in that in my first career I had something that I was just absolutely caution vote loved. It just filled my life. It was a joy. It wasn't work. And then when I was in California for that year, uh, I started getting out of bed by We're only note on my hands and knees because I started to have some serious back issues. So I came home to Canada to Albert, and more specifically, I checked into that and I had two doctors that said I was potentially looking at a spinal fusion, and they could only give me a 50 50 chance of it, either being the same, being bitter or potentially even being worse. So I chose to give up the horses. So from there, I have to tell you, I was pretty lost. I didn't know what to do. My brother lived in Calgary, so I started working for him in his dry cleaning business, which is quite a switch from what I've been doing

Mark Laurie:   18:43
it. But I

Share Munoz:   18:44
was just searching and he was kind enough to offer me work which I did for a number of years and worked very hard with him. And I'm grateful to him to this day for giving me that opportunity, because I have started learning another skill set, and I had been very, very shy as a child and now working with him, I had to deal with the public. So I learned how to build those relationships of people how to connect with them, how to deal with any issues that they might have. So again, another skill set. And it was nothing but good in that regard,

Mark Laurie:   19:17
so slowly building your skill sets.

Share Munoz:   19:20
Yes, a woman of many towns treats Nestor.

Mark Laurie:   19:25
I can so relate what three beliefs guide you when men used to back. Look at situation, one of the three things the three filter to go through. And so this fits my beliefs. This does not which the more police you've got,

Share Munoz:   19:38
I say one of them to this day, and I don't always get it 100% but one of them is. Am I treating use? I would like to be treated, so when I find myself responding and anger to something, I want to judge something I need to just put a stop to that and step back and go Wow. Like what? What triggered that? Why am I responding that way? What was so horrible that that person just said or did, uh and now in my response and my being kind or a my responding the same way that they did to be so Lots of them likes it. I don't always succeed at it, and I'm quite happy to admit that. But it's something that I do work out. So that's that's one thing, Um, and another is just looking around. And I think it's easy sometimes for people to say, Wow, I sure wish I had what they have other boy will ever have enough. And I I try to look at Well, I'm so grateful for what I have now in Seoul. Fortunate at the moment. No, we don't own our own home. But you know what? I'm rich and family and friends are, and our business is doing well. Um well, at the moment, we're we've ground to a halt. But I have some ideas around that that we can talk about later, but we're implementing and involve you as well in fact. So part of that giving back, What am I doing that's giving back or am I just taking? And I think there's lots of easy way. So a friend that just moved out to the island, her parents lived not too far from us. So I made a whole bunch of cheese biscuits the other day, and I've been wrapped some of those up and take them and put them on their doorstep. So they've got some fresh biscuits who made by me through these little things like that. You asked for three. So there's just the what can I give back how my treating people, um, and just being a decent person like I I look around and and from small Children to seniors like where has just We're just simple courtesies gone like Do you need some help, please? Thank you. May I just common courtesy opening doors like for Well, women lost their minds about men opening doors for them. I I think it's a wonderful act in a kindness. If you want an open the door for me, go for I'm more than happy to accept. So sometimes I think it's just the common courtesies and it feels like a lot of times we've lost that. And in the climate that we're in right now with the crew in a virus, I think more than ever we need to rediscover those and our neighbors doing, oh, our families across the world doing I just stay in touch, reach oak, Just have an open heart No more than you ever wanted.

Mark Laurie:   22:42
That is, that is great. That is great. What have been some of the biggest challenge you've had to overcome? Stuff that double stopped in your tracks and you have to climb up over top of.

Share Munoz:   22:50
I think the first thing was when I made that decision to give up the horse is that that was devastating for me. That was, uh, in Europe. That was a huge loss. That was a big, big part of my life. And then, uh, moving to that kind of a space of panic thinking, Okay, now what do I do? Because that's what I lived and breathed since I was a kid. It was just a big chunk of my life, and that's where my brother stepped up and said, Hey, I have a couple of positions in my company. Do you want to come and give it a boat? So there, I gotta hand up. It wasn't necessarily something that I did, but I had someone that that stepped up and said, Hey, come here And you could learn some skills and then you could move on from there and decide what you want to do. You lose your head in that process, I thought, Well, maybe I need to go back to school, so Well, I was working for him. I went back to school part time to get my grade 12. Then I went to university for a year, thinking I would maybe like to be a veterinarian. And early in I went, Uh, no, I've been to some vets have had to put some animals down on I went. You know what? I can't do that. The moment that I would have to put somebody's baby to sleep, I went, This is not me. I can't do it.

Mark Laurie:   24:14
I came across the stack that vets have the highest suicide rate in the medical profession. I think it's because of that.

Share Munoz:   24:20
Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah. It's heartbreaking. Heartbreaking of its your pet. That's been cut. Damn it. To be the person to it. And I know it's a kindness if they're suffering, but I just move, I can't get past. That's not a little for a baby.

Mark Laurie:   24:36
So climbed on that. When did you get him? Anything else down the road. Is there any usually have several Come in threes? I'm told you.

Share Munoz:   24:45
Yes. Yes, that That doesn't depend on it, Isn't it? Um, I have that. I have to think about that for a moment. I've had other challenges where I've been with the company for quite a while and was let go and I kind of went okay. No, it And but I've always again where there's a Wilder's away. I have always been able to create employment for myself. So at that time, I end up working part time for a chiropractor and part time for a book store that was also had a consignment side to its business. A smell. So I've always found ways to find work and just keep out into that skill set and see and where it leads. And I was one of those that, like I said, I had the horses initially, which was just remarkable. But then, from there, I always struggled with what do we want to be when I grow up? And I ever had an answer. There wasn't anything that really grabbed me. The one thing that I knew about myself, though, is I I like working in teams. I like the inn and support on. I love helping people in connecting them if I can. So then I tended towards sort of administrative duties and jobs because then there were lots of people that I could help, and I really enjoyed that. And at the my last career was at some core on. But I was the executive assistant to the C F O V P of finance there, that was a woman. And again there's another woman that was remarkable. She was a huge mentor to her team when they were 16 of us, and, uh, she was just amazing. Just she was so supportive and mentored that whole group of people and they were all ages and backgrounds and and just kudos to her. So again, I was very fortunate to work with somebody that had that belief in people.

Mark Laurie:   26:49
You've had some amazing role models. I guess, sir. People that guides you along the way. What's been your big, distant Raylan Rush?

Share Munoz:   26:59
I big adrenaline rush. Just a few few, I would say one of the biggest ones. Um, a number of years ago. I don't fire walk. Yeah, that blew my mind cause I and I went with a group and it was in the evening. So the polls were very sparkly and red and break, You could see the heat, but just the way the person spoke to us and prepared us is able to do it. And the first time I went across, I was I was so excited and like the adrenaline come to that. I did it two more times. Yeah, I couldn't have done that. Did I just do that? I didn't do that day and I didn't give up. And I did it when I'm trying to.

Mark Laurie:   27:43
But I did mind about whether I had this rush of thoughts, remember they looking where the first aid station was? And he was, like, 1000 feet ways. I think it should be closer. You have 40 feet of these calls. They started the fire. I want it with you. But early in the morning so I could see that it also produced will see these 10 foot flames. And all day this thing burned and made it like midnight. So you have a chance for it to kind of burned down. So the path was on two feet wide? Yeah. Allenwood

Share Munoz:   28:10
cars. I think our started what we met. I shouldn't say started. We met. I think it was around two in the afternoon. It was down at the stampede. Groans, and they had already started it burning in that. And we wait until dark. It was in the late fall when we did it. And as it got dark, you could just see the cold's get brighter, and I could see some people go. What? Did I just sign up? Work might be losing my mind. And I just went, I'm gonna do this. I can do it. And and I saw people do that. I mean, you know, absolutely. But again they prepare you. And then it was well done. Really about them.

Mark Laurie:   28:47
Yeah. I went through it three times as well. It was like, so cool. This'll be fine, son. So you're 2nd 1 your second big adrenaline rush.

Share Munoz:   28:55
All my big brush my 2nd 1 would been when I was 14 were up it friend's place, cold hero just outside of chilled back B. C. And they had an arena and their their kids for into showing horses well, but they had some steers. And so some of the kids were still writing that day and night.

Mark Laurie:   29:16
Hard canopy.

Share Munoz:   29:17
I wrote Curly. He was perfect bowl. And I was, like, before years old. I mean, how bad can a B e? I knew it was gonna be a lot different. All right, you know what? I'm gonna do this. And I got halfway across the arena before I got dumped on my face and eat a bunch of dirt I love It was great. I had that experience and I wouldn't change it.

Mark Laurie:   29:41
What would be a perfect day for you? You woke up in your stretching. All this is the date. What would it be?

Share Munoz:   29:47
It could be so many things Riding still exist. Still ride whenever I didn't get the opportunity. But a perfect day is just I am a morning person and one of the things I loved when I was still showing the training horses and just riding for my own pleasure is getting up in the summer like a book five in the morning As soon as it's light out and I would on my horse because there's been some and a couple of the places we lived. I had access to the White Rock Beach, and so I wrote there sometimes. But there is nothing greater for me than being up that early and just kind of how I view is watching the world wake up. Just the sounds that start. And when you wrote that early, you just you hear the birds, you maybe hear dogs barking. But it's quiet. It's just huh? There's a magical time in that warning. That's just It's like it's belongs to me, that's mine. And then if I have an opportunity to ride on the beach again one horse that we had at that time love to run. See, it was fabulous family horse, and he loved the water so we would race along the beach and breaks leaves. And I mean, it was exhilarated. You'd have the seagulls wheeling above your squawking and go, Wow, what are they doing? That and I'm always even, and I think, part of what the ranch ive me as well as a an avid sense of curiosity. Like I like to explore if there's ah, if there is a trail off the road, I want to go see where it leads. If there's a bend in the road, I wanna go around the corner and see what's up ahead. I love that. So in that, what would I do when I get up in the morning? Let's go find an adventure, see what's out there. Let's explore

Mark Laurie:   31:32
reflects me. The old called Phineas and Ferb cartoon. And it's it's for it's for kids in the agents. Every time you starts off, you'd be like what you do today. I know we're gonna do the oh, that was there is supposed to August all the stuff that was my rally, tried that thought that was such a cool, cool way to start it. What do you intend it today? These air You. You've gone through transitions and stuff, and now you've moved into your video world. How'd you get into that?

Share Munoz:   31:59
Yes. Um, we started our video production company via digital films. Uh, coming up nine years ago, we were at a grand daughter's birthday party, and our daughter's sister in law was part of a belly dance troupe outside of what she did from 9 to 5. And she just come home from New Orleans and shut this stunning red and silver belly dance ofit. Oh my God is just magnificent and Fran and chatting with her cause For 10 years he had done video work that was his way of decompressing from his very high stress job. And so when he did a video it it wasn't your normal video. Like when you opened it up, there was seen selection their graphics. There were Specialist, that's the whole ball of wax. And so when chatting, let's lift the our daughter's sister in law, she said, You know, I would love to be filmed and he said I would love to do that and she showed him a business card and was just sort of a silhouette other midsection and just the way the lighting in the shadows where it was just spectacular until he wanted to film that way. He wanted to replicate that, but through video, and so we felt her three partners out of that studio that one of them had access to. And when we were done with it and we interviewed them is well, so just a little quick clip symbol, why they did what they did, what their passion was around it, which was amazing what they said about it. So anyhow, when we showed it to them, they just looked at us and said, Oh my God, you should be doing this as a business and just to sort of explain and put it into context My husband had been diagnosed, so my husband is friend and he had been diagnosed with cancer through the whole process, and it was a yearlong process. Hey, just kind of evaluated where he waas what we're doing. So when this happened and she said that to me and he said, You know what? Let's let's give it a world. We're not from that world. We don't know what the hell we're doing, but let's go for it. So we went out, and what we did is we filmed five projects that were very different just to see how we did and how it looked, but also to give us a bit of a portfolio rather than coming to you markings in some work. This is the business we're in. And how do you feel about being our first project?

Mark Laurie:   34:31
There's a unique cell approach.

Share Munoz:   34:33
Yes, absolutely. So that's That's part of what we did and we just built from there. And we've done a tremendous amount of studying for what we do. I watch a tremendous amount of Netflix, and I'm very fond of what comes out of Europe. Love what the BBC does a lot of their Siri's, because when I watched them, it could be your eye in their films were just normal looking. People were not all the made up that the U. S does A lot of may get in trouble for saying that, but it's my treat,

Mark Laurie:   35:11
their pretty regular folks. There's a a couple of shows that beat the murder in paradise. I think it was one of the ones that I love. That one. This is so much fun. They're just so right. Just is reek of average people,

Share Munoz:   35:24
Yes, but I love watching the beach and the water and the palm trees, cause I'd love to be there, but at the moment I live for them. Curiously little six

Mark Laurie:   35:35
hologram says, We need to. Do you have any quotes that inspire you daily that you kind of enjoy?

Share Munoz:   35:43
I don't really. I was asked this before, and I Same thing. I just go blank. I think it's just I don't know if they're quotes are saying maybe it's same thing like that one that I spoke about earlier is, uh am I treating you as I would like to be treated? So those those types of things and just I'm inspired by a lot of what people are doing right now over struggling with the Corona virus, where people are looking after their neighbors. They're finding ways to make their own masks and donate those two those responders that are first in line when we do get the virus or forget the virus. And just just looking at that kindness, because I truly believe that as human beings were remarkable in what we're capable of, that we can be so innovative and creative. And I know I've used those words before, but they really resonate for me. Just a strength, the vulnerability to just accept where we're at and then move on from there how could reach out. How can we help? And there's so many people that are panicking right now that we need to reach out to and just find a way to help them just kind of calm down and and figure out ways through this. So it's more, I think, actions of people that inspire me and the words ism as to specific

Mark Laurie:   37:06
colts and go through quotes. Every one of my mentors. There are people I look up to every Friday, sends out a thing. The court I'm contemplating. What he does is he finds a quote, and he considers it every day for a week and just really get into, which means it's It's really kind of a fasting time with what you're

Share Munoz:   37:26
actually when I do it, because I haven't read here on a, uh, most pad and I picked it up and I love this and and I think it really applies right now. Good as life begins at the end of your comfort zone,

Mark Laurie:   37:45
that's when you've lived

Share Munoz:   37:46
your That's when I've lived and continued to live.

Mark Laurie:   37:50
There's a poem in that suit of poems I've always loved in theirs up one like this, he says, Come to the edge. He said, No, no, we're afraid. Come the edgy demanded. So if they did, to their horror, he pushed him over the edge. There surprise they could fly.

Share Munoz:   38:04
Yes, I love that. I've heard that I love that.

Mark Laurie:   38:07
The one that the court that goes with that is, if you step over the edge in the darkness, you must believe one of two things. Either there will be something dark, something salty, decided to stand on, or you will grow wings and fly. Otherwise you'd never step over. You have to have a belief that something's goods could be happening. The other one, which seems to be what? Another quote, that forgets impression that you seem to fly by as well is that you just jump and you'll build the parachute on the way things is gonna work.

Share Munoz:   38:41
Absolutely. Trust, trust in process. Yeah, try me. Not sure, sure proven true. And in our business I'm singing. Just trust the problem. And there's there's nights I've woken up in cold sweats going Oh, my God, What are we doing? How we are we going to do this? How are we going to get ahead? Where we gonna find the next, like all those voices that all of us here at one time or another were more world in our head?

Mark Laurie:   39:05
Yeah, one of my mentors. He says, if whatever you're doing, if you're big challenge doesn't scare you that it's not really a challenge, you can't win unless you're terrified. You really haven't got a big enough challenges. Gotta scare that. Well,

Share Munoz:   39:19
sure, one of my fears with you, and it's with meeting today. I'm terrified of the dark, really by myself in the dark. If Fran is away, um, I sleep with the late song don't have music playing, and I I'm not quite sure where that fear originated or started. But there are nights that I challenge myself and I turn off the lights and the music and I go, Okay, I'm gonna lay here, and I'm just gonna feel the fear and see what happens. And when I do that, um, my heart races, I feel such anxiety. And then I start saying, Okay, it's dark, I'm breathing. Nothing's happening. It take another breath and I'll just take deep, deep breaths. Yeah, and I find my way through it. But I've had points of my life for I'll tell you what I'm doing awake the whole night. I'm just I'm waiting for the Blue Booga didn't come up from the littler or wherever I think it ISS And so that's a fear that's been deep, deep rooted in like this. I don't know where it comes from and I just deal with the best I can just face it and go from there.

Mark Laurie:   40:36
What would be your strongest personality trait when you go? Yeah, this is my flag.

Share Munoz:   40:41
I'm just fierce And whether it is I'm it's Sami Anan like I just you're not gonna knock me over with Not a chance. I'm just I'm there, just rock solid head up, shoulders by back and and here I am in that strength, I refused to get that I will not give up on anything if I believed in it again. I will find that way.

Mark Laurie:   41:07
Find a way that ever wavered over your life. There's where you've had this moments reset back and all that's been tested or you just have always climbed up.

Share Munoz:   41:14
No, always, always climbed up, always climbed up and, you know, on I don't know if this is true for other people, but often when I'm really struggling with something. But I will wake up around 44 30 in the morning with the answer. Not always. Sometimes it takes time. But, um, I like this idea assured with you earlier which will go off, look at again in a moment. I woke up last Friday with my brain on fire with this idea. I'm sure that with a few people and they said, run with it And, uh so we'll talk about that a little later

Mark Laurie:   41:50
because he kind of I drive into think if there's anything left to start China boat, we've covered what we've covered. A lot of ground, a lot of ground. If you had a mentor, that a girl who was 16 that stepped up to you as your riding people that what would be the advice or if you were to look back to yourself would be the biggest piece of advice you would give someone who's moving forward in their life.

Share Munoz:   42:16
I don't know if it be advice, or what I would say to them is, How can I help you? What is it you need to know? What can I What can I share with you? What can I give to you? Huh? And I don't understand. Your biggest fear is your biggest concerns and go from there. There's, uh I'm I'm not one of those. It goes Oh, I could never tell you that because that's my That's my secret sauce. I'm not wired that way. It's Let's go. What do you need?

Mark Laurie:   42:44
But if they asked you for help if they said I need a viewpoint, something that's gonna be my guiding light, What kind of guiding light would you give a young person?

Share Munoz:   42:52
If it was that, I would say, believe in who you are. Find that piece of you that resonates and says this you can never take from me and then build on that because we all have that somewhere in us I truly believe up.

Mark Laurie:   43:13
It's hard to recognize the times, isn't it? Yeah, but that peace with me secret sauce that makes it fly. Yeah. Yes. I want to thank you for your time today. This has been delightful.

Share Munoz:   43:24
19 Mark. I appreciate being invited on this.

Mark Laurie:   43:28
That's another fascinating woman we chatted with. And, uh, we'll connect soon. Thank you. This has been fascinating. Women with Mark Lauri join us on our website and subscribe at Fascinating Women. Dossier. Fascinating Women has been sponsored by Inner Spirit Photography of Calgary, Alberta, and is produced in Congaree by Lee Ellis and my Office media.